Episode 3: Yamile McBride, Latinas Finas and Conscious Step-Families

Hello everyone and welcome to the third episode of the Daisy Chain Podcast and today I am super excited to introduce you to Yamile McBride, who is a graduate of Salem College and is into all kinds of incredible things here in Winston-Salem and the county. Jamile is the Lead Latina in Latinas Finas de Carolinas and is also the COO of Conscious Step-Familie. Jamile is a fire starter, you guys. She is all over the place, she all over the county doing some amazing things, not just in our community groups but in our schools with young people. Jamile, I just appreciate you so much for being here for being part of this podcast and just telling everybody about your journey after graduation after SAlem. You have had an incredible journey and you have done some pretty incredible things. And so, I want you to just share that with us today and let’s just start off with the basics. Tell us a little bit about you, your family, your sweet husband Casey and your sweet children, tell about your family and what life has been like for you after Salem College.

Yamile: Wonderful thank you so much for asking me to come. You are honestly a daisy in the mix of stuff so thank you so much. Alright, so I am known as the Loud Large Latina Fina

Melissa: And we love you for it.

Yamile: Thank you so much. And so I I have a family of four children. We have a Brady Bunch from the 21st Century. I have two kids that I brought into the marriage, and he has one child he brought in from another marriage, and then we have a 5 year old baby girl who is helping us regain that joy and playfulness, that we so needed. We also have a goat! A uni-goat!

Melissa: A goat?!

Jamile: Yes, yes! They were supposed to take away his horns and one of them popped up. If anyone has seen Despicable Me 3. That is the goat! We also have a dog… we always keep our animals in the house. We love animals, we love life and its just been fantastic. I think that’s the word. It’s been fantastic since I graduated college at Salem College.

Melissa: So, after you left Salem where did life take you?

Jamile: It took me everywhere. So, I was really a chaser, I was a hustler. I was still in the mentality of needing to get my degrees and so after that a year later I pursued my Masters Degree and got that.

Melissa: In what?!

Jamile: That was a Masters in Education Administration. Because what my dream was, what I thought that I wanted to do was to be a eventually, a superintendent at a school. But, I ended up being an assistant principal in one of the schools in the county and for two and half years I thought that was it. I thought I had gotten my dream. I should be happy. I’m making money and I realized that through that failure of thinking that was what I needed I found my destiny. And so its just super exciting because we think we’re on a track, we’re majoring or minoring in “this” and that’s what I thought, I minoring in Communications and majoring in education and that’s what I want to be when I grow up type of thing but in reality, life has a way of kind of taking you to where you need to be.

Melissa: That’s great. So tell us what caused you to switch gears? You’re still very involved in the schools, very active in the school system but tell us how you switched gears, what prompted you to switch gears and to start Latinas Finas, which by the way, listeners, has been incredibly successful. It was started in 2016?

Jamile: 2017

Melissa: She has over 1000 followers on her Facebook page. She is global. You’re global now, you have constituents in Australia and Africa now. And so she is all over the world so that is pretty amazing. But what happened as you moved in this direction? Was there something that caused you to shift and move into this arena that you’re in now? We’ll talk about Latinas Finas first and then move to Conscious Step-Families.

Yamile: Sure, so what happened was actually, that I got to a block of this is it? This is what I signed up for? I was working 80 hours a week, I was barely seeing my children, barely seeing my husband, I was always fixing a problem. There was always a problem that had to be fixed because the school that I was in is actually the lowest functioning middle school in North Carolina. So, a lot of just heartache. So, it was through my heartache, my roughest moments, that I started searching, is this it? Can this be my life for the rest of it? And not only that but I was being prepped to take the school over for the following year. And so I knew where I was going, right because everybody wanted me in and now I could be a prinicipal but I started to get into a depression. I started just getting like, “Is this it? Can this really be happening.” And so, in my search I remember watching a show on Netflix, “Not Your Guru.” And its Tony Robbins talking about that he is not our guru, that really our guru is us. Each individual. And so, I thought, “Wait, what? I’ve got my answers?” We all have our individual gifts and answers and reason for why we exist so I kept on looking and looking and ended up at an event in July 2017 in New Jersey, which is where I was born, so I thought that was really cyclical, that we went back to where I was born. And I saw myself unleash that power that was inside. That power, that even though I was loud before, and I was moving and shaking things, I was doing that because of the perceptions that I thought that people wanted me to do. I want you to be a doctor, I want you to be a lawyer, I want you to be someone big in the community. But what does Yamile want? What was Yamile’s whole intention of even existing? Because the last number I saw we are all here by grace and a miracle because 1 in 450 trillion, that’s the chances of you and I being here. Once I started realizing and educating myself, because education is lifelong. I was in college and I thought “I passed this class and therefore I have whatever it is.” And so that really woke me up, emotionally, spiritually and socially, to who I am. And I was 41! Can you believe it? 41!

Melissa: Yeah, but you know I think we’ve talked about before, that your 40’s, I mean feel like I have hit a new awakening. I mean I am really tapping into the rhythm of my own drum beat in so many ways. I can appreciate that.

Yamile: It’s crazy because we’ve actually met each other like a year ago right? And I’ve seen you transform.

Melissa: WE did. Yamile and I we actually met a couple of years ago. She was a speaker at Venture Cafe in downtown Winston-Salem and I immediately was just drawn to you Jamile. You are such a dynamic and authentic speaker in the way that you present yourself to people and I was immediately drawn to you so I just had to put that in there because I think it’s important for people to understand that when you go through the struggles, when you go through the obstacles, when you are faced with a crossroads, it really can bring out the best in you. And I think that everything that you have been through in your life it is a reflection in how well you are able to present yourself in public, and with people and in the groups that you are addressing. I’m just so impressed by that.

Yamile: It’s funny you say that because that was the very beginning stages. I was still even in that process I was still figuring this whole thing out. Even around that time is when I wrote the book, “Loud, Large, Latina Fina” which is where I realized that my vulnerabilities, and people thinking they have vulnerabilities, are the super powers that they have. It’s almost like a new car, right? We get a new car, we don’t everything about the new car, we don’t know how fast it goes or anything like that, but as we test it out, we start acclimating to the seat. It starts moving with us. We become the car. And so that is the vehicle that I am in. Thinking that it was a vulnerable spot… I’m loud and I’m large and everybody looks at me a certain way because of my accent, not realizing that was the vehicle that I got to drive, and test out the headlights (laughter) you know? And so, you know when I tell you that, our world, our life is our playground, it’s our manuscript. We decide we want. We decide what role we want to play. And so even though growing up I was abused and went into foster homes and shelters, a lot of the stuff that happened there that was the Yamile from before. That was Yamile 1.0. Now, its Yamile 2.0 but as life and seasonings happen, that’s when we get even better like wine.

Melissa: Well, I do want to touch on you experiences in foster care. I don’t want to take you back to a dark place but I think so many of us have experienced traumas and tragedies in our childhood and things that we have had to learn how to over come as adults. I know that I have had things that I have had to over come and it has taken me my whole life to over come them. What was it like? What was that like going from different foster homes and living that type of a life, what was that like for you growing up?

Yamile: Embarrassing. I remember feeling so moritified that we had to count our cans of food and going into place that kids were just crying and I think that’s the other reason why before I got preganant I really didn’t like kids. I didn’t like kids because of that. And everything that I’ve ever gone through the last time we were in a shelter I was 18 years old, I was a senior in high school in Orlando Florida. And I don’t if you know but Orlando has one of they have one of the best places to be homeless. They know how to take care of their homeless.

Melissa: No, I did not know that.

Yamile: We lived, well, I call it a commune for homeless people. And because that side of town in Orlando back in 1994 they were very segregated, the side of town where this place was out was majority Black. So, the high school I went to as a senior was all Black and I remember my sister and I getting, they were throwing stones at us and calling us all of these racial slurs and everything. But, that all propelled the love of people. Like man, if us Black people, us Hispanic people, us White people, us Asian people can get together, like if we cause that much division that’s pretty powerful. Like when you part a wall or separate the seas doing something for like “Yes, it’s all mine.” It’s pretty powerful.

Melissa: Well, you know the rising tide, it lifts all boats. And that’s one of the reasons why I wanted to touch on that because I think that it’s important to know that you can either take a situation in your life and see the negative and dwelling on the negative, or you can turn into something positive and something that can be truly impactful and take that and harness it which is what you did because that’s what you’re doing now. You’re working with Latinas Finas you are collaborating with women of all demographichs in our community in order for all of us all to come together to try to break the stereotypes and the status quo, surrounding all of these groups. So, tell a little about the work that you’re doing in Latinas Finas and what that consists of.

Yamile: Sure. So, Latinas Finas is Class Latin Women.

Melissa: I love that by the way.

Yamile: Yes, very classy (shakes pearl bracelet on her arm) and you can hear the beads.

Melissa: Oh, aren’t you precious with your pearls (laughter)

Yamile: Yes, with my classiness. And truly, I don’t know if you’re familiar with AKA, so I saw them right before, and this where I think it’s so amazing, because when the student is ready the teacher will appear. So, I started seeing like little things of how we could group up, and I saw that AKA’s at an opening for a school function, and we had women from like 18 years old all the way up to 80 years up and they were classy as can be with their pearls, and I don’t want to say old ladies but the older ladies had their big hats and they were sewing some stuff and all of them were together and they were the ones that put this big event together at the Benton Convention Center. And I said “Wow, if these Black sisters can do this Latinas can do this and then we can collobarate and we can just make this bigger than what it is. And so Latinas Finas does not focus on the lack. We do not focus on what we don’t have. What we are focusing on is the glass half full. And so, what we believe, it’s like a beer or a soda, you start putting in the beer or the soda it will start spewing if you continue to do that, if you continue to fill up the cup. And so, that is the energy that we want. If we can energize a people to speak life, to speak it into existence, to manifest what they want, they will have that in every part of their life. And I feel like the narrative that has been told on for Blacks and Hispanics is Oh, poor us. We’re so poor, poor, poor. Poor?! We’re drowning in the stories, the stigma, that is out there. And so we just want to propel. And there has been some negative feedback like well, you can’t ignore the weeds. And we’re not trying to ignore the weeds, but we have so many weeds, that we’re not looking at the beautiful flower that’s right next to it. WE’re not looking at the daisies that are blooming around them . Daisies are perfect because they bloom around a lot of weeds and ragweeds. And so as a Salem sister, as a woman, as just that person that wants to bridge this stuff is like, come on over to the other side. Yes.Life has its stuff. but a lot of that stuff is to prepare us kind like a caccoon for a butterfly. I remember looking at a butterfly and thinking can we just rip it open and get it out of there free it and really you would kill it if you get it out of its steam kettle. So, that’s what Latinas Finas does. It empowers Hispanic women to collaborate with all women so that we can mentor this in the next generation. Because you, in your classiness and beautifulness, can you imagine.

Melissa: Oh thank you. I’m in my jogging pants right now (laughter)

Yamile: You look pretty good girl. You look pretty good. And so as we move together right, these young girls are going to look at up at us and say “What, they can look that good and their older, or they can work together.” and so that’s the whole reason.

Melissa: That’s so great. And I absolutely love what you are doing with getting this group out there and what you’re doing with the women. There is a lot of power in women’s groups. And when you get a group of women together, as we know, you can do some pretty incredible things. People talk about the value of going to a women’s institution, and that for me is where I have found my power, is being in an environment where I am surrounded by women who have encouraged and propelled me into seeking what it is that I am meant to be doing, in the future and in the community. But it’s women like you who spur that on. It’s women like you, who help spur that on Yamile. When you’re out there doing these things its inspiring and motivating for all of us, Even though I’ve watched some from the sidelines, and I’ve just watched you over the course of the last two years how much you have grown this community and it’s pretty amazing what you have done and I admire you so much for it. And especially your work in the schools. You know I can’t even imagine how difficult that must have been for you. Can you tell us a little bit about that experience. working in the school, when you were assistant principal and trying to cultivate yourself and prepare yourself for taking on that role there. What was that like? What kind of experiences did you have there?

Yamile: I’m glad you asked that because, so as women, as Salem sisters, we tend to want to fix everything else around us first and we forget that really the only way, the only engine to be able to fix more because we can do that, is by fixing us first. And not fixing us because we are broken, not that at all, because I don’t believe we are broken, I think we feel we are, but that missing or something.

Melissa: I know and I love that, I love that perspective because we are not broken,

Yamile: We’re not. If we look at stained glass windows or we look at things or the mosaics that are broken pieces, and then what does it create? Something great. So, at the school, I got caught up with fixing a lot of stuff. And the other part is that I got into my masculinity energy. So, what I believe is that we all have masculine and feminine energy.

Melissa: Sure, sure. Absolutely.

Yamile: But because of our aura women really do better in their feminine energy. We think we don’t and that’s what happened. I blocked off my feminine energy when I was abused when my husband left. All this stuff I blocked that off to protect myself. But in reality what I was doing was working out of an energetic field that was causing me damage. And so I didn’t realize what I was doing because I was doing the job, the JOB required these kids have drugs, I have to go and take care of this situation, I have to call the police, this parent almost attacked this person, and so you know because of so many fires going on, this staff member isn’t happy with this staff member, so all that, I was caught up in fix, fix, fix, mode and so never really took into consideration, wait before I turn the fire off, what caused the fire to begin with. And so the last six months I started focusing more on what caused that. In those last six months is when I reduced discipline by 27% and I was really excited about that because I started looking at the underlying thing rather than the fire. What got me to there, to be honest with you, is I got put down by a kid. She took me down. And so my husband had to come, the ambulance had to come, she kicked me pretty hard and I thought I was having a heart attack. That happened at the beginning of the year and that was reallly the motivating factor. To be honest with you I actually send her a lot of lot and lot of light and blessings because if it wasn’t for that kick, if it wasn’t for that I couldn’t literally use my phone, my arm wouldn’t even move, it was so scary I thought I was dying.

Melissa: Gosh, that’s scary.

Yamile: Yeah, it was scary. Because of that it made me me start looking in deeper, like I can’t be running around this campus taking care of stuff. What happened at the beginning? What is that source? And so those were the beginning questions. So that is when I saw Tony Robbins, and then I came back and August 1st I think is when we went back for our three day retreat for all administration and I remember seeing everyone look so depressed and we had been off for a month. We had no kids, do know what I’m saying, we had our own lives, and everybody was so depressed that they were back. And I called my husband and I said, I’m not coming back. I’m gonna give them my 30 days today. And because they were prepping me to be the principal, they were not very happy but but I couldn’t live in that for myself anymore.

Melissa: Right.

Yamile: And so, from there in August 2017 I started the Latinas Finas project. And used all my retirements to do that which some would call crazy. It was like walking on that fire that first night I was at Tony Robbins,. We can tell our mind anything because we own our mind.

Melissa: Absolutely. Absolutely.

Yamile: Our heart, guides us and leads us but our mind tells us no, you’re too fat, you’re too ugly, you’re too stupid, what are you doing? And so what we want is for you to align with your heart so that you can find the right answers for your own life.

Melissa: That’s so great. That’s very powerful. And it sounds like a very powerful experience. Now that you’re on the other side of it, because you took the chance, you jumped, and now you’re flying. So what does it look like from the 30,000 foot view?

Yamile: It’s crazy. I love it. I love it because I don’t stay stuck in the manusha, I don’t stay stuck, like right now we’re working on a program, and it’s a hefty program that we’re sending out there to work on, and when I get stuck, like how do you do xyz on computer stuff, I look at is like wait, come back up to 30,000 feet. So it’s beautiful that you say that because it’s only when we see it at 30,000 feet, don’t get stuck on this pain, this little pain is for this big gain. So that’s perfect you said that. That’s perfect to use Melissa, for anybody that’s stuck in a pain. Whatever that pain can be. Look at the gain from 30,000.

Melissa: Well, we’ve talked before and I’ve told you my word of the year for 2019 is perspective.

Yamile: Yes, Tell me.

Melissa: And so that’s, it falls in line with what you’re saying, because if you step outside of a situation and you take yourself back up to the 30,000 foot level, and look at it from the aerial perspective, it’s much smaller, the problem that you’re trying to over come is much smaller than living in it at that moment. And so I absolutely appreciate what you are saying. So tell us, the other arm of what you are doing is Conscious Step-Families. so tell us a little about that and how that got started and what ignited that fire.

Yamile: That’s actually funny that you say that because that’s actually our word for the company. Is it ignite.

Melissa: Oh wow. Okay.

Yamile: Is to ignite families. And the cross over is that as a step-family, and it’s so cool because you’re actually a step-family too, as a step-family, 70% do not make it.

Melissa: Wow I had no idea the statistic was that high.

Yamile: It is very high.

Melissa: Wow.

Yamile: And also the families are younger now. They’re in their 20’s and they’re in their 2nd and 3rd marriages.

Melissa: Wow!

Yamile: Yes, so what we want to do with conscious step-families is to help these families who are ready, because not everybody is ready, bu the step-families that are ready, to step in, step up and step out into who they want to be starting with themselves. If they are like, I am done with this little girl rolling her eyes, I am done with his ex-wife, I am done with all that stuff, so you know the problem but once you can identify but I know there has to be an answer because I love my husband or wife so dang much, there has to be something that’s going to get us through. What is that something? It’s to come back out on the 30,000 foot ledge and look and see I love my life, I love myself, I love my husband. And this problem, this situation, it’s crossing over from Latinas Finas, it’s personal development, it’s developing of ourselves first. Because problems are going to be there and situations happen. I don’t care if you’re a millionaire, a billionaire or you’re living in the streets we all have something that we come across and that’s our consciousness. So conscious step-families was created, one because we’re as step-family, we’re actually 3 generations of step-families, so my grandparents, my mother, and us. So we were like, where can we end this? Why did it happen before? And we did it also as a social enterprise to pump and fuel money into the non-profit, so that was the reasoning behind it but also the passion because we are the step-family.

Melissa: And you saw the problem. I think that a lot of people don’t, my experiences with friends, and in my circles, I see so, so many issues with family dynamics with step-families, and for some reason people think that this is just the way life has to be. I was very fortunate growing up in that I had amazing step-parents. My step-parents all get along, my step-dad got along with my Dad, my step-mothers got along with my Mom, they always kept us as the main point of everything, they always kept us as the main focus, and there were times they may have had issues and problems that they had to work out but it wasn’t an ongoing battle. What I’m seeing with a lot of step-families is that there is an ongoing battle between the mothers and the step-mothers. You know I think I’ve told you before I don’t actually use the term step, here for me and my family, we use bonus, because the negative connotation with step that underlying tone and I wanted to set a different tone for our relationship and for our family dynamic. And so my soon to be step-sons are my bonus sons and I’m their bonus mom because I wanted it to have a different tone and go into the marriage with a different dynamic and tone for the relationship. But I think that people really feel like they have to live in this misery and you know I had someone tell me one time that being a step-mother is the most thankless job you’ll ever have and it doesn’t have to be that way, you know it really doesn’t and so I think that what you’re doing is so important because of what you said statistically, and in my circles I see so many people that are struggling with the family dynamic and trying to make things work with the bonus children and the ex-spouses. I think it’s really good and impactful what you’re doing and there is not anyone else around here doing it unless you go to a family therapist which is absolutely a great idea but I love the way that you incorporate the group setting because I think it’s important to have that support within a group. It can feel very lonely. We’ve had our issues that we’ve had to work had to work through and it’s a very lonely place so having that support system and that platform for support is just really important.

Yamile: Well, it’s definitely been since the beginning of time, they’re called Masterminds, and so Jesus did it with his disciples, the yogi’s, masterminds are super powerful because you get together a group of people together that want the same result so in this case they want a happy peaceful, resilient step-family. You gather all these people, that’s their mission. Their mission is not to change their step-daughter or their step-son, what they change is their thought, is their perception, of their step-family. So, you saying bonus, actually what I’ve noticed is that statistics is people who use bonus are usually millineials so you’re a pretty hip step-mother.

Melissa: Well, thanks I try to be (laughter)

Yamile: So when women and men can realize that we are the answer to anything in our lives, to a better life, to a better family, and all of that stuff then we can actually grow more. And I relate to like when we have headache, what do we do, Tylenol, thank you Tylenol, thank you Ibuprofen, whatever we take for the headache instead of asking what did I do to cause this headache.. oh I’m stressed out, oh I’m I’m doing this, oh I drank too much wine last night or whatever the case is. If we can look at that because the world wants to demonize the outer of us, the world says it’s an epidemic of, there was an epidemic of these drugs…

Melissa: The epidemic of opioids.

Yamile: Yes, the epidemic of opiates, those bad opiates. Listen, you will not have an epidemic of opiates if you do not pick up the opiates. The guns, who kills? The people are the guns. So, I’m not going to say whose better or whose not because we are all going through our own journey but the more we give the demon outside of us, the less we can become the kings and queens that we already are and so that’s what we try to help our step-families believe. Not because they are broken or dumb or stupid or they’re missing anything but because if we can unleash and ignite that fire inside of them, their going to have the better, better relationship with their family.

Melissa: I think a lot of people have difficulty though, Yamile with personal accountability, that’s essentially, what, it’s very hard to be introspective at times when you’re dealing with a stressful situation and it’s easy to lay blame on everyone, well my step-son or step-daughter did this or my husband is doing this. It’s very hard to look introspectively at what you’re doing personally to not necesseraily help but to hinder the circumstances surrounding what you’re dealing with. And so I think you’re bringing awareness to this and I see what you mean when you say, when they’re ready, because it is absolutely, you have to want to change and you have to want to grow personally to improve your situation, not necessarily to change the people around you and there is a difference between the two. And and so I think that putting yourself in a situation of trying to look at your perspective that you were saying can be difficult but I think that it’s really fantastic that you’ve had such success with it and people are recognizing it but I don’t think that people are even aware that it’s a problem and I think that’s what is so great about this group, is that it’s about awareness. And just being aware that this something that a lot of people deal with everyday and we haven’t been dealing with it for years and years, those of us that have come from families that have step-parents and our friends do so I think that it’s great.

Yamile: It’s funny that you say that because actually consciousness is awareness. Consciousness is being aware of why that is hurting you. And so the reason I also wanted to bring up the story of living in a homeless shelter when I was 18 years old, so that’s pretty embarrassing already, but 18 years old I was living in a shelter in Orlando. We were there for almost a year and when I left there and went to college and every story I had about Florida, I hated. “Oh you lived in Florida?” Yeah, I hated it, hated it, hated it, hated it. Everyone, even Casey, until one day we started learning about all of this stuff to be consciously aware of why I hated it, he literally did a whole session on me and I realized that the reason I hated Florida, and Florida is flat, there’s a speedbump as tall as a mountain, all of these crazy things about Florida, because I what I aligned with it. Because of what happened then. So as an adult I’ve gone back to Florida. Florida is gorgeous.

Melissa: Oh yeah. Give me the next bus out. I love Florida.

Yamile: Florida is beautiful! The last time we went there I pulled a coconut off a tree. The abundance is beautiful the water, the air, the everything. But the reason why I couldn’t see that is because of my relationship to the past and so when a step-mom or step-dad when they are feeling disrespected it isn’t always because the kid is disrespectful, even though they could be it is because it is triggering a story they have from their past. And so that is the stuff that we help them unleash. Is to realize where is this coming from. Yeah, she did roll her eyes, but first let’s find out where is this coming from. Did I grow up in a family where children are not heard, they are only seen, and where is that coming from and so to be conscious of it that’s the type of people that we work with that they’re ready to open up the Pandora’s box and look at the poo and want to wash that off, right? And not everybody is ready for that and that’s okay. And that’s what we do.

Melissa: That’s great. Well, let’s switch gears a little bit because I want to make sure we have enough time to cover all of the questions. I have loved talking with you and I could talk with you forever but unfortunately I’m using a free software program and so I’m limited on the time, don’t cut me off and I don’t want for that to happen so let’s switch gears and talk about as far as looking back on your life, where you are now what piece of advice would you share with a soon to be Salem graduate who might be feeling a little discouraged right now about the world and going out there into the world and all of the things ahead of them after they leave the warm, safe community of Salem? What kind of advice would you share with them?

Yamile: I would share with them, that to align themselves with their heart. I know that sounds hokey pokey, and if people haven’t done mediation or yoga it might be a little difficult to understand just to go with it, but I would say before you graduate to sit under your favorite that you’ve had at Salem College because Salem’s campus is gorgeous. I love the cobblestone and everything.

Melissa: I know, it is so beautiful.

Yamile: Sit where you feel alive and I want you to take your journal and I want you to ask what do I do next? And allow the birds, the air, breathe in deeply, and just write. It’s actually called automatic writing.

Melissa: You know I’m reading a book on that right now?

https://www.amazon.com/Writing-Activate-Listen-Extraordinary-Within/dp/1942785011/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=241611543803&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9009554&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=8902686769406107944&hvtargid=kwd-26646401374&keywords=writing+down+your+soul+janet+conner&qid=1555279622&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Yamile: Are you really?

Melissa: I am reading a book on that right now. I will text it to you. My brother sent it to me and I absolutely love it.

Yamile: So girls, I am telling you and gentleman if you’re listening, automatic writing, is the universe’s way of speaking to you. Yes, that’s very creepy and weird, but as you write without thinking, okay does it have a period, does it have 150 words, don’t worry about any of that and just allow the presence that’s inside of you that powerful, warrior, beast you already know you are and then just let it all out. And any question that you have I guarantee you, or your money back, that you will get your answers for what you are supposed to do. And all the noise, your family, your Moms and Dads, your brothers, your boyfriends, all the noise for what they want for you focus first on what you want for you.

Melissa: Tell us, do you have the name of a favorite book that has helped you along with your journey?

Yamile: Yes, actually two off the top of my head, “Man’s Search for Meaning” by Victor Frankel https://www.amazon.com/Mans-Search-Meaning-Young-Adult/dp/0807067997/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=C6X61N3DAE4A4GKDXBH0

which one day I would love to write the “Women’s Search for Meaning” but this guy is really powerful, he passed away, Dr. Victor Frankel, he was a pyschologist in Nazi Germany and he was put into the concentration camps and he wrote the book literally in his mind while he was in these camps. He was the one that would dig the graves, he was the one that would move the dead people so he was in the trenches of these terrible things that was happening, right, and when I read the book my mind went back to, first of all, I have not seen death like that. Right? And I still when I was going through stuff I thought I couldn’t get out, but this man he not only got out but he wrote secrets of how you can get out of your mind when we get there. So he was rehttps://www.amazon.com/Dying-Be-Me-Anita-Moorjani-ebook/dp/B006M7JCC2 al pivotal in reading that book.

Yamile: The other book is “Dying to Be Me”

https://www.amazon.com/Dying-Be-Me-Anita-Moorjani-ebook/dp/B006M7JCC2

So. Anita Moorjani, she actually wrote this book after having a near death experience. And she talks about this abyss, this matrix, this universal love that encompasses all of us. That hear on this earth we all put down stuff, like oh when you do you’re gonna do this and all these terrible things, not because they’re bad people but because of rules. A lot of times we feel if we put rules or boxes we’re going to protect people but in reality what we’re doing is limiting the spirits way of speaking to us. She talks about in this book that near death experience and she was out for I think 24 hours, something like that, it was just insane and so, she also, the reason why I think you’re gonna love this book, she also talks about how she was an Indian women born and raised in Hong Kong, under the dominan of the British, and was raised by a Chinese woman So she has all these dynamics…

Melissa: Lots of culture,

Yamile: Culture, religion, beliefs and disbeliefs,

Melissa: Oh I love that.

Yamile: And because of all of that it shaped her belief system so that when she died she was actually like, wait a minute, that’s just all the seasoning.

Melissa: Yeah, yeah, I love that!

Yamile: So, super powerful book.

Melissa: Alright, sister so I put both of those on my summer reading list because after graduation all l’m going to do is read all of the books that I want to read.

Yamile: Well, no you’ve got to get married.

Melissa: Well, I’ve got to get married. And we officially have an officiant. Allan called me and said he’s found someone to marry us, that was a huge road block, we were really worried about that but that’s been take care of so but after the wedding I’ll be reading.

Yamile: Good

Melissa: For sure, so I’ve got those on my list thank you for those. So next thing, what’s something kind of fun, and this could be silly and fun or serious or however you want it to be, what do you kind of consider to be your shot in the arm right now? What’s something good for your life, that’s a guilty pleasure, something that you do for yourself everyday that you look forward to.

Yamile: I love saying no. I love, I used to say yes to everything.

Melissa: I love that so much!

Yamile: I even say no to my daughters. I used to cringe, like Oh my God, I’m going to break their little hearts, and spirits, and saying no is the most unbelievable experience, I’ll tell Casey, I said no today!

Melissa: That’s so great, I love that.

Yamile: Especially now when you’re going to graduate. Cause everybody loves you, Melissa.

Melissa: Oh my gosh. Don’t say things like that.

Yamile: You know, you’re energy, they’re going to want you here and there, and you’re going to be like Oh my God my head is going to blow up.

Melissa: You’re so kind.

Yamile: But definitely, once we align ourselves, with what is that I want, then you can say no easier. I said no to a big organization who wanted me to come speak and I said no to them and a couple of other organizations too, and I said no not because I think I’m better than them but because we have to in order to continue with our destiny. Because throughout that people are going to be drawn to you, situations drawn to you but not all of those situations are the doors you need to open yet.

Melissa: I have a really hard time with saying no. I think it’s because I really, it’s the challenge, it’s like when someone asks me to do something I feel like they’re presenting me with a challenge and so I have a very difficult time with turning down a challenge because that’s kind of what feeds my fire is the challenge. And so I will absolutely keep that in the back of my mind, Yamile, as my little nugget of advice as I graduate because it is difficult for me. I don’t know if you have read the book by Gretchen Rubin, “The Four Tendencies”

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=the+four+tendencies+book&hvadid=241923391166&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9009554&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=15922375761907345948&hvtargid=kwd-364385770301&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_9kvmbytpex_e

or have taken the quiz quiz.gretchenrubin.com/ that she does and she’s written a book about this and I thought that I was a Rebel, because I do have rebel tendencies, and a lot of people are into the enneagram https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions and you know the enneagram has been around forever, and it’s a little, the enneagram is great, but The Four Tendencies just spoke to me because it’s more about your tendencies as far your behaviors are concerned and what motivates you to act and to respond. And so, I am absolutely and Oblidger, I was really surprised by that.

Yamile: That’s awesome.

Yamile: Girls, you need to take this assessment. Once you can identify with what somebody has coined, it will help you even more.

Melissa: Absolutely.

Yamile: It’s funny you say that. So, there is actually some masculine energy. And we’re up for the challenge, when you want to duel, let’s duel, it comes out of masculine energy. It’s not a bad thing. It’s not a bad thing at all but when we say yes, let it be a yes because it’s going to fill the fire in your feminine energy. Not because it’s going to challenge you in that way. Does that make sense?

Melissa: That’s a great piece of advice. That’s a great way to keep it in perspective. Okay, well I wanted to make sure that we have enough time to get everyone connected to you. So, tell us how they can connect with you, well first tell us about your event for Latinas Finas on April 26.

Yamile: Ladies and Gentleman, please come out to a grand event, the event is called Soy e que, which means “I am, then what.” So, I am short, or I am graduating, then what? What is my life story? What is it supposed to be? For only ten dollars you’re going to get an empowerment session, you’re going to get to dance your hiney off with a lot of other women and then you’re going to get to be fed royally and also, connect with other businesses and other organizations in the area. We want Latinas, Black women, Asian women, anyone, and we’re still looking for vendors so you have that, I remember meeting a couple of girls who invented stuff in their dorm room at Wake Forest. If you ladies are like that and you have invented something and you want to come and sell it and showcase it, then that would be the place to go.

Melissa: That’s great. So how much are tickets?

Yamile: So tickets are $10 to be a participant, so if they want to showcase what they have so maybe a Salem Sister table, with all the little knick knacks or something like that, that’s twenty-five dollars. So that’s that event there, on the 27th, the very next day, Latinas Finas will be presenting many other Latin based women’s businesses at Reynolda House. It’s going to be a free event there. You get to go to Reynolda House for free. So, super exciting and there’s going to be way more things happening and we’re joining up with other female groups to do other events as well. This is not the end, this is the beginning.

Melissa: So tell us how they find you on Instagram, Facebook, all your socials.

Yamile: Yes, So for Latinas Finas you’re going to find us at Latinas Finas and that’s on Instagram and Facebook, please reach out to me if you want to do a live so we can share with the world, what you are, who you are and what you want to be because through that we can connect you literally with people all over the world. And with Conscious Step-Families we are @McBridge-Somos on Instagram and Facebook. We have a private group at Conscious Step-Families and they can pretty much google us and we’ll be at the top.

Melissa: That’s fantastic. Well, Yamile, thank you so much for taking time to do this and I just appreciate you, I respect you, I respect what you’re doing in our community. You are inspiration, you are just flipping things all over the place as you barrel through the county, it is fantastic, it’s refreshing, we need it and I just appreciate everything that you are doing and love it and I’m on board with you sister and I’m linking arms with you.

Yamile: Thank you so much

Melissa: Thank you so much. And listeners, thank you for tuning in today and listening to Yamile’s incredible story and you can find her where she mentioned on all of the social pages which I will have posted to the transcript over on the website at www.thedaisychainpodcast.com and we’ll see you next time.

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Episode 2: Kathryn Binkley; Alyght and Lit Ladypreneur Podcast

Melissa: Hello, Kathryn?

Kathryn: Hello!

Melissa: Hello, I’m so sorry! Listeners, this is actually our second time trying to connect. Somehow we got disconnected the first time. So, anyway, we’re going to try this again, Kathryn. Let me first of all thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule. I know how incredibly busy you are and just carving out some time to be able to talk with the students and alums about all of the fantastic things that you’re up to and what’s been going on in your life after Salem. And just so kind of everybody has a point of reference, Kathryn and I actually did not meet through Salem. We met several years ago, it’s probably been nine years now that we met at our children’s daycare and it was there that I discovered that she was an alumna… I think you were wearing a sweatshirt or a t-shirt one day and I said something to you about it but anyway I really appreciate you coming on the show and you are absolutely fantastic in everything that you are doing and I’m really excited about our listeners and our students and alums hearing about everything that you have been doing because it’s pretty phenomenal, Kathryn. But I would like for you to just start out by just sharing a little bit about your life and what you’ve been up to and life after Salem. Just share a little bit of that with us.

Kathryn: Okay, sure so, literally two days after I graduated from Salem I started my career in marketing. I went straight into a full service marketing agency and it was kind of funny because I had spent a lot of time on Burke Street while I was at Salem but that’s actually where the first agency was located. So I spent several years on the same road, on the same street in Winston for a very different reason and it was kind of funny at the time thinking about how much time I had spent and never even realized all that was happening around me so I started my career there, and the very next year got married, that’s been almost twelve years ago now. And so we have two children, Graham and Ellie, they are 10 and almost 8 and we lived in Winston for a little while and then moved just outside we’re now in Midway, it’s still less than 15 minutes from Salem just right below the Forsythg County line in Davidson County.

Melissa: Okay, so you stayed local. So tell everyone as far as after you graduated and you got out into the “real world” and started to experience life from a professional stand point versus from a perspective of a student, how did that go for you?

Kathryn: Well, I mean there are so many things I could talk about here. I guess just for background, so I spent nearly 10 years working for a full service marketing agency. And, really honed my skills there and then went out on my own and started my own business and I’m sure we’ll chat more about that transition and even what that looks like and what I do now but it was a great transition. I jumped right into things and I was really challenged and I appreciated having a challenging environment but my first job right out of college it was truly sink or swim. I didn’t get a lot of intentional training, if you will, it was learn as you go. Jump right in, learn by doing and fortunately, I thrived. I saw many who didn’t and I think there is a lot to say in the education at Salem and the role that that played in me be able to just jump right in and get involved, learn my role, watch others, soak it all in and know that it was all going to work out. I did experience that. I quickly moved up in my role there with my first position moved into other agencies in the course of my career until the point that I decided to start my own business.

Melissa: Very good. Well now let me go back ask you, when you say that you were able to thrive versus others around who weren’t necessarily able to thrive the way that you were, what do you think contributed to that. What do you think made you different from the other people that you were working with?

Kathryn: I think that maybe two things come to mind. One, I’ve always this insatiable desire to learn and this innate curosity about me and so I love being thrown into things and being able to soak it all in and learn as fast as I could and I liked that about Salem as well. There are definitely some opportunities with independent studies and Jan term and things like that really fit my style of learning but then also I think a big part of it, and I will say that I did thrive but it wasn’t always the easiest, and that is to put all that pressure, there was so much pressure that was put on me and I just had to take that somewhat with a grain of salt and just trust that things were going to work out and not let the pressure get to me.

Melissa: Right, and I’ve always been the same way where I have just… I always tell people for whom I work, I’m the person you call in a time of a crisis because I respond well where other people shut down, I don’t know if its instinct, I don’t know what it is, I just have this ability to snap into the moment so I can totally totally, relate to what you are saying. I think it’s important for others to be able to hear that because I think that our ideas of wanting things to be a certain way or expecting things to be a certain way often times don’t necessarily happen that way at all. So being able to be flexible and being able to jump like you did and kind of take the reign with both hands kind of allowed you to pave your own way. So, let’s talk about what you do know, let’s talk about the transition that you had from working from the agencies into what you are doing now. Tell me all the things, Kathryn, I want to hear all about it.

Kathryn: Well, about four and half years ago now, I started my own business. I started it on the side. It was a side hustle at first and something that initially was more of a passion project to be honest. It was something that I wanted to do I felt like could be fun, as if I needed something else to do. But, I felt like it was a good direction that could grow into more but I wasn’t right off the bat, committed to figuring out what that was going to look like in the end. I just said okay, I’m going to start something and so that was four and half years ago and then in 2016, that’s when I decided okay let’s all in on this. Let’s make this my full time thing and so that’s exactly what I did. I made that decision to go full time and six months later I had built things up to the point where I could actually make it my full time business. What that looks like as far as what I do, is I’m a business strategist and coach and I work specifically with female entrepreneurs who want to build a wildly profitable business, leveraging their online space, but also a business that really truly, lights them up, something that they are going to look forward to on Mondays. I don’t want… women don’t have to dread Mondays, if you’re… no one has to but, women especially, I’m just on this mission to help women live a life that truly lights them up and if that involves their own business then they get to use that to build whatever life they want.

Melissa: So, now let me ask you, how do they come to you? Do they already have an idea of what they think they might want to do and you help them kind of dissect that or do they come to you and say Kathryn I want to start my own business but I don’t have any idea what I want to do or do you have both scenarios? Tell me a little about that.

Kathryn: Yes, so I have some communities online. People may listen to my podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lit-ladypreneur-podcast/id1437601585?mt=2 or join my facebook group without much of an idea but when they come to me to hire me at that point they have to know what they want, because I can’t help them get somewhere if they don’t know where there is, right if you’re driving somewhere you’ve got to know that end destination or GPS can’t tell you how to get there. So I specialize in helping women through marketing and mindset figure out how to get there, how to get road blocks out of the way and how to make it to that end destination but that means you’ve got to know where you want to go. So, when women start working with me they have already gotten an idea, they’ve started something and most of them have started and figured out that hey you know I’m really good at what I do but I didn’t realize I had to know all of this stuff about marketing, I didn’t realize I had to know all this stuff about sales, I didn’t know how much of a challenge it was going to be mindset wise and how much I was going to get in my own way. Those are the things that they need help with at this point, they are already really good at what they do and they just need someone to help figure out how to grow the business.

Melissa: Okay, so just so everyone knows, we didn’t say it in the beginning but Kathryn’s company is Alyght https://www.alyght.com/ and I’m going to post everything on the website so you have access to her she has a fantastic podcast, Lit Ladypreneur https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lit-ladypreneur-podcast/id1437601585?mt=2 which is amazing, I love listening to it. She goes live on Facebook, she has groups, she has one in particular with over four hundred members. She is on fire, you guys, Kathryn is on fire. I love what you’re doing. And, so as far as when women come to you and they need help, Kathryn, do you help them from the ground up or have they already started the process and they’ve kind of speed bump or do you help them at different phases of where they are with their business.

Kathryn: As long as they make the commitment to their business, then really whether they are working to get their very first client, or they have a few but don’t know how to get more, or they have a handful and they’re and their really ready to scale their business, whichever category they fit in I can help. So some of them do come to me at the very beginning, now they set up their business and foundationally are ready to start offering services they just don’t know how to get in front of their target audience, they don’t even know who their target audience is, they don’t know all the things related to marketing, not to mention, feeling comfortable selling themselves so no matter what phase that’s where I can jump in and help.

Melissa: Okay, I see. So tell us as far as your transition is concerned and I know that you said that in 2016 you decided to make this your full time gig, and I think it’s always amazing when women step out and just say I’m going to to do this. Was there a pivotal moment or anything that happened that made you come to this realization that was what you needed to do, that this was your life work?

Kathryn: Yes, so, well first of all, I had been thinking about being entrepreneur for awhile. My Mom, while I was actually at Salem, I saw her step out and start her own business and so I got a taste of what that would look like and I thought about it, I had been in the marketing world, I had seen and helped other businesses, and I knew what was possible and I knew I had what it would take to make this work. But, timing wise I just hadn’t committed to it and so the pivotal moment for me was actually when one day my boss called me into her office and she was sharing her plans for her business with me and I helped her market her business and so it was interesting because she was bringing me in before everyone else had a glimpse of what this restructuring was going to look like but it actually had an impact on me beyond anything that I had ever thought was going to happen. She presented this plan and how my role was going to change and she was incredibly excited, she saw it as a huge promotion for me a growth opportunity, but when I heard it I wasn’t thrilled at all. (Laughter) It was not the direction that I had expected it was not the direction I wanted to go in in my career it was pushing me outside wheelhouse, or my expertise in marketing, and so up this point, at this moment, I was managing all marketing for the company, and the marketing, the company, the agency I was working for at the time, had three different divisions and marketing was a component but there was also technology and what was referred to as production which was more of the development side, like web development, coding, kind of thing, project management side. I was managing all of the clients, all of the employees on the marketing side and every project on the marketing side, but all of sudden everything was going to shift and the business wasn’t going to be structure departmentally, anymore and that shift meant it was going to do a couple of things. All of sudden we were going to split into three teams that were cross departmental teams, and so the responsibility for marketing was going to spread across the three teams, employees were going to be divided across the three teams, the clients were going to be divided, everything was going to be divided, but then also that meant adding more responsibility that was outside of my expertise but it’s just not what I wanted. It wasn’t just about me, it was that the values of the company didn’t align with my values and this was moving in a direction that further prioritized productivity and profit and the expense of the people who were working there and the quality of the work. And so as I saw that shift, I was faced with a choice to either step up to that role, as she phrased it, which I totally disagreed with, I did not think it was the right direction for me and what I wanted, I did not look at it as a promotion at all. But, I could either step into that role or I could do something else. The downside was that I was locked in a non-compete with a company in San Francisco, I couldn’t just go to another agency locally, somewhere else, and I was really face with a tough decision. It was a really interesting time for me. I was about to go into, I had a major surgery scheduled within a couple of months, I don’t mind sharing, that I had to have a hysterectomy, I had endometriosis, and so I was planning to go into this big surgery, my role was about to completely change, and it wasn’t the direction I wanted to go in so, stopped to think and decided, you know what this is the time, I’ve been thinking about this for awhile, it’s time to get going. Now I thought I was going to ease into it. I thought, I’m just going to start this little thing on the side, and I’m going to ease my way into it, and it was a side hustle for awhile but based on the rules within the organization and the non-compete, I did need to let her know, even though I was restructured in a way that wasn’t going to compete with the agency, at all and it was going to be outside that market, I still needed to let her know. And so I gave her a heads up, like hey I’m going to start this other thing, and while on the surface she seemed okay with it, obviously, I was very up front and honest about how I felt about this new direction she was going in and it was clear that it was no longer going to be a good fit for me to stay there. So, I transitioned into a different role completely. I went from an agency world into the corporate world, if you will, and took on a marketing director role, and built my business on the side of that role until I could actually transition.

Melissa: Wow, so you had a lot of things happen kind of all in a row, that kind of pushed you in that, it’s almost like the universe was trying to tell you that you needed to make the switch.

Kathryn: Yep

Melissa: You know and I think that learning how to read the signs, learning how life plays out in general, I think is just a big part of being able to navigate, you know? You’re in your twenties, or my twenties, I don’t know about yours but mine were very tumultuous and transitional, and I was just trying to find my place and where did I want to be and what did I want to do, but I wish someone had just said, Melissa just pay attention to the signs. Just watch the signs and pay attention and you’ll know which direction you need to move in. Wow, that’s incredible story. You’ve told me a little bit about the situation with the company that you worked for, have you ever had, because I think it’s important for people to be able to hear difficult experiences, have you ever had a difficult professional experience or situation, professionally and what you did about it?

Kathryn: Yeah, oh my goodness I could probably list a ton, I mean that situation alone was insanely challenging but beyond that just day to day, I think for me, I big thing that I had to learn was not to live life, and not to show up at work professionally trying to meet everyone else’s expectations and I knew that was going to lead to success for me. Which is really hard because you, even at Salem you’re trying to get good grades, you’re trying to follow the rules, you’re trying to do what’s right, you’re trying to work hard, and I did all of those things but I’m building someone else’s dream or I was proving myself when I didn’t really need to prove myself and was completely burning myself out. I mean at one point I did have two young kids and I was still working you know full time, and full time, meant more than full time, full time in the agency world is working at nights, it’s staying late, rushing home just to be able to have dinner with the family and then pulling out my laptop to do more work. And that just felt like that was normal, that was expected but it wasn’t the life that I wanted so eventually I had to take a step back and really think about what I wanted. There’s this idea of success and I think too many of us look at this idea of success all as the same thing. We imagine as if there is one definition of success and there isn’t and that’s a huge myth that success means getting married, having kids, advancing in your career, whatever, there’s this one idea of what that looks like and maybe everyone’s ideal of success that they think is the perfect place isn’t even the same but for me whatever that ideal was I had to let that go and really start asking myself what is it that I want because the only definition of success that matters is my own and so I had to get really clear on that.

Melissa: Yeah, and that’s powerful. And I’ll admit, I struggle with that, that’s a personal struggle that I have as far as being able to get or have a clear perspective on what it is that I want long-term and I at times I think I know and at times it changes.. So having gone through that, such a short time after you graduated, I was not that far along in my early professional years, I was just not that far along, it’s taken me a long time to finally see what I am capable of doing. So I think that it’s wonderful that you’re able to share that with so many others. Let me ask you, who in your life has played a signficant role in your life, is it a mentor is it someone that you, who is your rock, who do you go to because I think it’s really important to have that as you go through all of these transitions in life, to have that one person who know is always going to be there for you regardless and know that is your baseline, that person is your baseline. Who has that person been for you?

Kathryn: If I had to narrow it down to one person it would definitely, it would have to be my Mom. That’s going way back to one of my earliest memories. Literally swinging back and forth on the porch swing at our house, and my head in her lap, and her saying that everything was going to be okay. I remember her telling me that we were going to be okay, we were going to be more than okay, after my Dad left and she told me, I mean she showed me strength, even though many, many years later, I realized how much in that moment she was even questioning whether life was even worth living. She was feeling that way but she never conveyed that and the way that she took that, it completely changed me and that’s exactly why I am as independent as I am right now, she told me that I can do anything that I wanted to do, anything I put my mind to I could accomplish, that I didn’t need anyone else to be able to do it myself. That I am enough. I would be able to do it myself, I have everything I need. I don’t need a man, I don’t need anyone. Right?

(Laughter)

Melissa: Yep. Yep, yep.

Kathryn: So, I heard a lot of those messages and that turned me into this fiercely independent woman that I am today and you know sometimes she’s jokingly said to me, I think I ruined you because you might be a little too independent.

(Laughter)

Melissa: Oh, that’s great.

Kathryn: But that’s exactly, she showed me that strength and showed me what was possible and I believed it. She didn’t show the weakness she was feeling in that moment she just showed the strength, and as I continued to grow, and of course she said to people, I’m the oldest of five kids and as a single Mom she went back to school, got her nursing degree, was able to support us, and then as I mentioned earlier, even though it was far later, she had a very successful career, but eventually, when I was in college, she went out on her own and started her own business and so I got to see all of that fro beginning to end and I mean that is exactly why I am who am and why I do this work and why I’m so passionate about helping other women see their potential to create that freedom and independence.

Melissa: Oh Wow. I just love that so much, Kathryn and I just appreciate that so much because you know for the first few years that we knew each other, I was a single mother, the first five years of Vivi’s life and you know I’ve always tried to teach her those things also, to be independent, you don’t need a man, and continued to pursue my college degree even though it’s taken me twelve years. I really wanted her to see the perseverence pays off and that if you can stay committed to something, if it’s what you really want to do you can achieve it. And I’m going to tell you, single Moms, they are a force to be reckoned with, I’m telling you they have a lot to teach us, a lot to teach us.

Kathryn: Absolutely.

Melissa: So, well now as far as your Salem experience, how do you feel that Salem prepared you for your journey for life beyond college, whether it’s what you learned in the classroom, your friendships, or what contributed to the success that’s brought you to where you are today?

Kathryn: I mean I think I would go at this from a few different angels, when it comes to academic studies I was a psychology major, I also took some sociology classes as a philosophy minor, and all of that really fit right in with both marketing and mindset which I do a lot of work around now to help me better understand how people think, reason, feel, all of that, react to things, so academically, even though I didn’t pursue it in the way that might have been the norm, all of that prepared me for the path that I’m on now. And then, beyond that, and it’s not baked into the Salem experience, I don’t or maybe everyone has had a similar experience but for me personally, growing up the way that I did, even thought I was so fiercely independent, I also learned to play it safe, because I needed to protect my Mom, I needed to protect my siblings, at least I felt that I did, and that meant hiding and playing small and playing safe, and in many ways staying invisible. And when I got to Salem, I think it was second semester of my freshman year, the very beginning of my second semester, and a group of other students noticed me and brought me in and, and I just remember, and it sounds so funny, but them saying things like, we just see something really special in you and I felt seen and I had this opportunity now to really shine and to step out of this place before where I was just staying quiet and hidden and started to branch out and so Salem gave me that opportunity to broaden my mind and really open myself up to that opportunity to build relationships and step into the spotlight a little bit.

Melissa: That’s great. What piece of advice would you share with someone who is getting ready to graduate from Salem and they may not be encouraged, or maybe they are encouraged, but do you have a piece of advice that you would tell someone who is getting ready to graduate from Salem?

Kathryn: Yeah, absolutely. This was one of the things that was huge for me to learn and I wish I would have learned it earlier, and you may even hear parts of this, or think similar to this but if you take the time and understand this now, it will make such a big difference, but your thoughts create your reality. And so, what I really encourage these women to do as they are getting ready to graduate, getting ready to step out is imagine the woman that they want to be, and so if I’m talking to you now and you’re listening, imagine the woman that you want to be twenty years from now, thirty years from now however many years from now, what decisions would she make now? What would she do, what would she think, and the only way to become that woman twenty years from now, is to start acting as if that is already you now. Start embodying everything about that woman that you want to become because really you are already her but you have to start acting like it. And not waiting until one day you’re thinking there’s got to be something in place in order for you to be there. The thoughts, the things that you tell yourself now, will create that reality.

Melissa: Wow. That is really powerful. I wish that I had someone say that to me when I was twenty. I may not be trying to finish my degree at 42 years of age (laughter) if someone had said that to me twenty years ago. But I appreciate that so much, Kathryn. That’s great. Those are great words of wisdom. So, what are you loving about your life right now? What’s fantastic about your life?

Kathryn: If I had to boil it all down to one word I would say flexibility. I love that I get to work where I want, when I want, with whomever I want. I created this, I started this business because of the freedom that I wanted and that’s what I have so I can travel I don’t feel like I have to miss things. I remember my kid’s Christmas party or missing ball games because of work and meetings that I had. I don’t have to do that now and so as simple as it might be I’m not always on the go I’m traveling so much more than I ever have before but just being able to sit at home and spend time with the family, when I want to spend time with the family is great. I get to be in control of my schedule. I like that autonomy.

Melissa: That’s great. I think we all try to aim for that at some point in our lives, you can’t beat it especially when you have children and you know flexibility is so important. So now tell me what you think has contributed to your success?

Kathryn: The biggest thing is mindset. It’s really 99% mindset. I learned a lot, I have a lot of experience but at the end of the day, there are things that happen but the way that you respond the way that you react to it will determine the outcome. And so it’s getting out of the view point of things that happen to me, or this happened to me or complaining about things that happening and owning that responsibility, realizing that you have a choice and you always have a choice and be open to that so that you can shift that outcome, based on how you choose to respond to it, no matter what happens that is by far been the biggest thing.

Melissa: Oh, that is so good. I love that. It is so true. It’s all about taking a deep breath and thinking about how to respond. I tell you that is some great, great advice. Do you have a book that has helped you in your journey, in your life discovery process? Do you have any kind of a a book or a movie, it can be anything that has been kind of a source of inspiration for you as you have been on this journey?

Kathryn: Yeah, first of all I read a ton, so many business and personal development books that I could rattle off a ton but if I had to narrow it down to two just to get started, and I know you asked for one but I think two is the best that I can do…

Melissa: Two is great. The more the merrier.

Kathryn: So, one of my all time favorites is called “Drive” by Daniel Pink and it talks about what truly motivates people.

https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594488843/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=241585412808&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9009554&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=17756144448854447367&hvtargid=kwd-15696442862&keywords=drive+by+daniel+pink&qid=1555266419&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Kathryn: And so having that understanding about yourself and what really motivates you can make a world a difference. And then also, Jen Sincero, “You Are a Badass” is an incredible it really starts to dive into that impact that mindset can have and it’s a very easy and entertaining read so it’s a great introductory to that whole world of taking over that control and stepping into what’s possible for you.

https://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Badass%C2%AE-Doubting-Greatness-ebook/dp/B00B3M3VWS

Melissa: Well, that’s great. Thank you for those tid bits of good information. I’ve started listening, I think I downloaded “You Are a Badass” but I don’t think I ever finished it. You know sometimes you just have to be in the right frame of mind for those kinds of things and I so I think that maybe I just wasn’t in the right head space to hear it but it’s definitely on my to listen to list because I listen to a lot of books and lot of podcasts and things in the car but I’ll have to tune that back in. So, kind of shifting a little bit, do you, as far as non profits, and causes that are important to you, do you have anything that you support?

Kathryn: Yeah, there is a foundation called Just Like My Child https://www.justlikemychild.org/ and I enjoy giving to that foundation because they help empower young, adolescent girls in Uganda, they have something called the Girl Power Project and it’s focused on equipping girls to stay in school. Because when they drop out of school early, they are often forced into child marriage, they have early pregnancies, are prone to more diseases, and they have not just early pregnancies, but a lot of pregnancies over the course of their lifetime which of course takes a toll on your body as a woman. And so there are so many things that can happen as a result of not actually staying in school and so it’s all about empowering these girls and equipping them to actually be able to stay in school longer.

Melissa: That’s great. I think it’s always important to support something and to be involved in the community because sometimes life is not easy and it makes it a little bit better and little more joyful if you can put your energy and resources into something and it’s always been that way for me. And not everybody is like that and I get that but for me when I’ve have my down days, my down times, when life has been rough, when I put my energy into giving back, it’s almost like a shot in the arm. You know, so anyway, I appreciate you, answering that question. So, I don’t want us to run out of time before you have a chance to tell everybody where they can find you, tell them all of your social media handles, tell them all the things so that they can follow you and keep up with what you’re doing.

Kathryn: Okay, well if you are interested in learning more, visit my website www.alyght.com you’ll find links to pretty much everything there but a couple of things that I’ll highlight are the Lit Ladypreneur podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lit-ladypreneur-podcast/id1437601585?mt=2

and then also my Instagram you can find me my handle is @Alyght and there are so many other places but if you can find those then you will be able to find links to everything else.

Melissa: Kathryn, thank you again it has been such a joy to be able to talk with you about your journey and what you’ve been experiencing and it’s so exciting. We always like to hear about alums are going out and making their own way and paving new ways for people and I just think it’s fantastic what you are doing. So, thank you for taking time to be on here and talk with our community and we just appreciate it so much so thank you.

Kathryn: Well, thank you for creating this opportunity for giving me the opportunity to share.

Melissa: Absolutely. It has been a pleasure, Kathryn and we will keep in touch and I will keep listening to all of your podcasts and your Facebook videos that I love so much and thank you again and we’ll see you soon.

Episode 1: Welcome to The Daisy Chain!

Hello, everyone and welcome to The Daisy Chain Podcast. This is Melissa and I am the host of the show. Thank you all so much for joining me, I am very grateful even if you only listen to one episode or you listen to all three which I hope you do. This project is actually the final leg towards completion of my college degree in Communication from Salem College. I do expect to graduate in May and I am very excited about that so I do I appreciate you listening. In order to complete the project I will need for you all to go over to the website if you have two minutes of your time which is www.thedaisychainpodcast.com and complete the survey which can be found under podcast episodes. You can click directly on the link and it will take you to the survey, it shouldn’t take more than a couple of minutes. But we will need that data to move forward in order to know whether or not you all feel like podcasting could be a valuable tool in the Salem community for maintaining connections with our Salem alumnae. So, thank you for taking the time to do that.

Also, just a few small housekeeping items moving forward, I wanted to just make you aware that the software program I used to produce this podcast is free but with that there were some limitations and so editing is very minimal but I also wanted you all to have a very organic experience when you listened to the podcast and really like you were sitting at the table with us as you listen. And so, the sound quality in some areas is not ideal, it is a little bit glitchy in a couple of places however, you can always go over to the website and read the transcript if you have any trouble hearing what was said.

I also wanted to let you all know that I actually produced this podcast in a very small little corner in my home that I have converted to what I call my Oasis of Peace but you may hear some dogs barking in the background, I do have two very hefty, lovable German Shepherds and and a rescue puppy who like to greet visitors, and the mailman and the children in the neighborhood and so you might hear some background noise in the background from time to time but hey, this is real life.

So, I’m really excited about our guests that I interviewed. These alumnae are fantastic women who have very interesting stories and their journeys are very insightful and they have changed direction when they both came to a point in their lives when they realized what they were doing was not what they should have been doing and so they redirected. They both have their own businesses, they have very different ways of approaching their businesses, they both work with women, one is a consultant who works with other women who own their own businesses and Kathryn actually helps them with business coaching and strategy. And Jamile, she works with Latinas Finas, she started the non-profit a couple of years ago, you’ll hear her story also and she’s done a lot of work in the Latina community here in Winston-Salem, in our county, but also her branches are spreading wider and wider. And she is going on to do some pretty big things as well. So, I’m very excited for you all to just hear their stories and their experiences and it’s all about the journey and hearing what caused them to change direction in their life and learning how to read the signs so that they could be on the right path toward living their best lives. So, thank you all so much for joining me. I look forward to seeing you on future episodes of The Daisy Chain Podcast.